Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
Administrator on Vista
I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message
Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
It isn't disabled. Vista does not have an Administrator account the same way that XP did. If your goal is to not have the GSOP (Grey Screen Of Pause) interrupting your mood, disable UAC.
"Vipin" wrote in message
But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
"Alan Simpson" wrote in message I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
"Alan Simpson" wrote in message
I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
ok, just the administrators group to which accounts can be added.
"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote in message
It isn't disabled. Vista does not have an Administrator account the same way that XP did. If your goal is to not have the GSOP (Grey Screen Of Pause) interrupting your mood, disable UAC.
"Vipin" wrote in message But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
"Alan Simpson" wrote in message I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
Hello,
The built-in administrator account is disabled to prevent people from using it, except in an emergency. By default, you can log in to the administrator account only from safe mode.
The intent here is to enforce the best security practice of least privileged access, where you only run programs with the mimimum privileges they need to get the job done.
With UAC enabled, Members of the administrators group run programs with only standard user privileges. When they want to invoke their administrator powers, the system either asks them for permission or they right-click a utility and click Run As Administrator. (This is different behavior than the run as... command in XP).
In contrast, programs ran when logged in as Administrator are always given full admin powers.
- JB
Vista FAQ http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
Would you be able to post the link to the TechNet article to which you refer? I am unable to find it.
"Vipin" wrote in message
ok, just the administrators group to which accounts can be added.
"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote in message It isn't disabled. Vista does not have an Administrator account the same way that XP did. If your goal is to not have the GSOP (Grey Screen Of Pause) interrupting your mood, disable UAC.
"Vipin" wrote in message But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
"Alan Simpson" wrote in message I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
Read the "Windows Vista Beta 2 Updates" section here:- http://www.microsoft.com/technet/WindowsVista/library/f72d606c-ad66-403b-be70-3d59e4e5c10f.mspx
"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote in message
Would you be able to post the link to the TechNet article to which you refer? I am unable to find it.
"Vipin" wrote in message ok, just the administrators group to which accounts can be added.
"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote in message It isn't disabled. Vista does not have an Administrator account the same way that XP did. If your goal is to not have the GSOP (Grey Screen Of Pause) interrupting your mood, disable UAC.
"Vipin" wrote in message But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
"Alan Simpson" wrote in message I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
The built-in administrator account is disabled to prevent people from using it, except in an emergency. By default, you can log in to the administrator account only from safe mode.
But, how do I know the password of that account because I never configured it during install time? During install, all it asks is to create a user account in the administrator's group.
The password for the inbuilt Administrator account is blank ;)
-- Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
"Vipin [MVP]" wrote in message
The built-in administrator account is disabled to prevent people from using it, except in an emergency. By default, you can log in to the administrator account only from safe mode.
But, how do I know the password of that account because I never configured it during install time? During install, all it asks is to create a user account in the administrator's group.
Thank-you.
"Vipin [MVP]" wrote in message
Read the "Windows Vista Beta 2 Updates" section here:- http://www.microsoft.com/technet/WindowsVista/library/f72d606c-ad66-403b-be70-3d59e4e5c10f.mspx
"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote in message Would you be able to post the link to the TechNet article to which you refer? I am unable to find it.
"Vipin" wrote in message ok, just the administrators group to which accounts can be added.
"Mark D. VandenBeg" wrote in message It isn't disabled. Vista does not have an Administrator account the same way that XP did. If your goal is to not have the GSOP (Grey Screen Of Pause) interrupting your mood, disable UAC.
"Vipin" wrote in message But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
"Alan Simpson" wrote in message I don't recall that account being disabled in any builds so far, does anyone else? You can get to it in safe mode.
"Vipin" wrote in message Hi, I read that the built -in administrator account is disabled on beta2. Why is it so?
Thanks, Vipin
"Vipin" wrote in message But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
<< Built-in Administrator Account is Disabled by Default on New Installations... The built-in Administrator account is disabled by default in Windows Vista Beta 2. If Windows Vista determines during an upgrade from Windows XP that the built-in Administrator is the only active local administrator account, Windows Vista leaves the account enabled and places the account in Admin Approval Mode. >>
You have to understand the way it works now...and this is also only if you have updated Beta2...
As far as *I* can see it, it simply disables the Administrator account within the user settings from control panel and such. It is quite easy to go in and UNcheck the "disable this account" box in the Computer Maintenance settings.
I've never really been great with the settings there, and I had the same questions when I first installed Beta2. Because I was having problems with something that I just didn't understand at the time. (Working with JUNCTIONS) If you are marked as an administrator, You ARE the administrator. Am I correct in my thinking that way?
I'm more of a hardware person than a security person...
"Raven Mill" <nospammingdammit> wrote in message
"Vipin" wrote in message But I don't see administrator account anywhere , neither in the user accounts and nor in the login screen? I want to login to Vista as built-in administrator and not using a account created during Vista's Install which is part of Administrator's group. One of the articles on the vista technet site says it is disabled in beta2
Built-in Administrator Account is Disabled by Default on New Installations... The built-in Administrator account is disabled by default in Windows Vista Beta 2. If Windows Vista determines during an upgrade from Windows XP that the built-in Administrator is the only active local administrator account, Windows Vista leaves the account enabled and places the account in Admin Approval Mode.
You have to understand the way it works now...and this is also only if you have updated Beta2...
As far as *I* can see it, it simply disables the Administrator account within the user settings from control panel and such. It is quite easy to go in and UNcheck the "disable this account" box in the Computer Maintenance settings.
I've never really been great with the settings there, and I had the same questions when I first installed Beta2. Because I was having problems with something that I just didn't understand at the time. (Working with JUNCTIONS) If you are marked as an administrator, You ARE the administrator. Am I correct in my thinking that way?
I'm more of a hardware person than a security person...
Not necessarily (the if you are marked as an Administrator, you are the Administrator comment). UAC adds another layer of protection to the scene now. So, even the Computer Administrators are more or less limited users. It doesn't seem to make sense, but in all honesty it does. A limited user has two layers of protection (you have to provide Administator credentials (or the credentials of a Computer Administrator, if you will) then clicking on the "Run as Administrator" box that appears), whereas the "Computer Administrator" only has to click on the "Run as Administrator" box.
It's a half-way method of doing su in Linux/Unix. However, Microsoft hasn't refined it as much as the *nix distros have. But, that's coming also. In the internal builds, UAC/UAP is supposedly less intrusive then it is in our builds (including the TechBeta builds). So, time will tell.
HTH
-- Patrick Dickey.
smile... someone out there cares deeply for you. http://www.microsoft.com/protect http://update.microsoft.com http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
"Vipin [MVP]" wrote in message
The built-in administrator account is disabled to prevent people from using it, except in an emergency. By default, you can log in to the administrator account only from safe mode.
But, how do I know the password of that account because I never configured it during install time? During install, all it asks is to create a user account in the administrator's group.
As Jane pointed out, it's blank. However, you CAN go into Safe Mode, log in as the Administrator (with a blank password) and set one. There's a catch though....
When you click the "Run As Administrator" box or right click and select that, you aren't prompted for the Administrator password. This is because you are logged in as a Computer Administrator. In effect it's like this....
In normal use, you are only a standard user. But, when you click the "Run As Administrator" option, you are actually unlocking YOUR Administrative powers -- not using the built in Administrator account. Imagine the "Run As Administrator" option as a key that unlocks a padlock on some tool that you don't normally use (or as the ignition key for a car). Not as a costume that you put on for a few moments.
HTH
-- Patrick Dickey.
smile... someone out there cares deeply for you. http://www.microsoft.com/protect http://update.microsoft.com http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com
I had the same probem and this helped me:
Vista Administrator account: accessing
right click on "computer" and click on manage. click on "local users and groups", click on "users", click on "administrator" and right click, click on properties. toggle the box marked "account is disabled". this should clear this box. now close all windows. in control panel click on "administrative tools", now click on "local security policy". Local Policies/Security Options in :interactive logon:" enable "Do not display last last user name"
In Vista the Administrator account is the only one really that I have been able to tell that really has full access. the get to some places you just have to run apps as Administrator. But at least you will be able to get into the account when you need to.
iam bennu
http://iamARTevolutions.net
Administrator IS certainly disabled in my machine. On entering Safe Mode I am prsented with Administrator and Username. If i select Adminstrator I get the message 'Adminstrator is disabled....'. If in normal mode I try to create an account named Adminstrator I am told I cannnot because an account of that name already exists (although it doesn't appear in the Users list).
Uguru (an ABIT program) keeps asking m to sign in as Administrator and click on something. Me being an administrator is not good enough for Uguru apparently - hence my interest in a user of that name.
So if I understand right, when I use the "Run as administrator" for a program , I get the same privelleges when run in built-in administrator account.
-- Vipin Aravind http://blogs.explorewindows.com
"Patrick Dickey" wrote in message
"Vipin [MVP]" wrote in message
The built-in administrator account is disabled to prevent people from using it, except in an emergency. By default, you can log in to the administrator account only from safe mode.
But, how do I know the password of that account because I never configured it during install time? During install, all it asks is to create a user account in the administrator's group.
As Jane pointed out, it's blank. However, you CAN go into Safe Mode, log in as the Administrator (with a blank password) and set one. There's a catch though....
When you click the "Run As Administrator" box or right click and select that, you aren't prompted for the Administrator password. This is because you are logged in as a Computer Administrator. In effect it's like this....
In normal use, you are only a standard user. But, when you click the "Run As Administrator" option, you are actually unlocking YOUR Administrative powers -- not using the built in Administrator account. Imagine the "Run As Administrator" option as a key that unlocks a padlock on some tool that you don't normally use (or as the ignition key for a car). Not as a costume that you put on for a few moments.
HTH
-- Patrick Dickey.
smile... someone out there cares deeply for you. http://www.microsoft.com/protect http://update.microsoft.com http://www.pats-computer-solutions.com